chris, let me start with you. is this thing going to be as governor christie just said, is it going to be a game-changer? >> well, thanks for chris christie for raising expectations. i mean here's the reality -- i think if everyone is speaking honestly and openly, if you're the romney campaign, you look at where you are, you're behind in almost every key battleground, you have to have a change in the narrative. there's only a few big events left. those are the debates to change narrative. he's got to go in the debate. not just do well, he's got to significantly rock the president. so that people come out of the debate saying wow, that's a new, that's a new romney candidate we didn't see before. >> joe watkins, is that possible? can you rock the president? is mitt romney capable of -- >> no. >> no. >> chris, why did you say it was possible? >> i know chris kofinis is actually being honest. president obama is an awesome debater. he's an excellent campaigner. i think that chances of rockinging him of course, that's a